Incognigo Montoya

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  It doesn’t make Sense

  by HappyBlessedFree in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so my husband and i had a long conversation last night about why i no longer believe.

  this is our 10th conversation about all the same things which we have been talking about for the last four months.. he says “you have let yourself be deceived”.

  i try my best to show him my sincerity in my motives.

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  Incognigo Montoya

  Also, may I ask, if he were to leave, what does he stand to lose? Friends? Family? This is a huge deal to some, and what keeps them in cognitive dissonance, being a jw apologist, while not adhering to the rigors and activities of actually being a jw.
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  It doesn’t make Sense

  by HappyBlessedFree in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so my husband and i had a long conversation last night about why i no longer believe.

  this is our 10th conversation about all the same things which we have been talking about for the last four months.. he says “you have let yourself be deceived”.

  i try my best to show him my sincerity in my motives.

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  Incognigo Montoya

  I think spiral is right. He's playing on the fence. He most likely thinks that Jehovah can read his heart, and if he still believes the jw doctrine in his heart, he'll get a pass come judgment day. But he really doesn't want to go, and for that he's got you to hide behind.

  Imo, best thing to do is give him time. Point out the blatant things when they come along. Like child abuse cover up. Or people losing their lives for refusing blood. Or any number of other things that come up, as they will do with the passage of time. Eventually it will all start to sink in and he'll come around.

  It's an extremely difficult thing for some us to see, or allow ourselves to see, because we were brainwashed into ignoring problems, into excusing any little doubt or issue, as satan trying to creep in and separate us from Jehovah. So we learn early on to ignore potential problems and be dismissive. There's an answer for everything, but we're bad if we question. Be patient. The answers will come at the right time. Jehovahs time table, not yours, and of course the GB will be the first to know, and they alone will decide when to share it with the sheeple. Put the blinders back on and just go with it, we have love amongst ourselves...
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  Tony Morris video footage of him buying a dozen bottles of scotch

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i was howling watching cedars latest video of tm111 buying a dozen bottles of scotch ((maccallans scotch).

  you can't write this stuff.

  right, i'm now off to buy a bottle of maccallans 😂..

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  Incognigo Montoya

  Simon, please read everything I wrote, and then tell me where i said it was a big scandal.
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  Tony Morris video footage of him buying a dozen bottles of scotch

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i was howling watching cedars latest video of tm111 buying a dozen bottles of scotch ((maccallans scotch).

  you can't write this stuff.

  right, i'm now off to buy a bottle of maccallans 😂..

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  Incognigo Montoya

  Respectfully, no, no you are not right. You are being black and white. This has shades of grey all over it.
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  Tony Morris video footage of him buying a dozen bottles of scotch

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i was howling watching cedars latest video of tm111 buying a dozen bottles of scotch ((maccallans scotch).

  you can't write this stuff.

  right, i'm now off to buy a bottle of maccallans 😂..

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  Incognigo Montoya

  Right, but if you're gonna speculate how far he drove to buy it, you have to consider that it was, for him, 13 miles from home. 13. That's not far at all (see my previous comment where I shared the Google maps image). And could be in route to somewhere else he went that morning. Also, the other liquor store could've been out of his brand, or not have as many bottles as he wanted to purchase. I dont think the location, or the distance he drove, to be as scandalous as it's been suggested here.
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  Tony Morris video footage of him buying a dozen bottles of scotch

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i was howling watching cedars latest video of tm111 buying a dozen bottles of scotch ((maccallans scotch).

  you can't write this stuff.

  right, i'm now off to buy a bottle of maccallans 😂..

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  Incognigo Montoya

  Yah, if you Google maps it, it doesn't seem much further out than any other liquor store, from JW headquarters in Warwick. Possibly in close proximity, or in route, to somewhere else he went or was going.
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  Tony Morris video footage of him buying a dozen bottles of scotch

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i was howling watching cedars latest video of tm111 buying a dozen bottles of scotch ((maccallans scotch).

  you can't write this stuff.

  right, i'm now off to buy a bottle of maccallans 😂..

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  Incognigo Montoya

  Finkelstein, certainly a tight trench coat! That things about to burst! 😂
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  Tony Morris video footage of him buying a dozen bottles of scotch

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i was howling watching cedars latest video of tm111 buying a dozen bottles of scotch ((maccallans scotch).

  you can't write this stuff.

  right, i'm now off to buy a bottle of maccallans 😂..

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  Incognigo Montoya

  😂@ Deut
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  Tony Morris video footage of him buying a dozen bottles of scotch

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i was howling watching cedars latest video of tm111 buying a dozen bottles of scotch ((maccallans scotch).

  you can't write this stuff.

  right, i'm now off to buy a bottle of maccallans 😂..

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  Incognigo Montoya

  Exactly, ToesUp, exactly!
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  Tony Morris video footage of him buying a dozen bottles of scotch

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i was howling watching cedars latest video of tm111 buying a dozen bottles of scotch ((maccallans scotch).

  you can't write this stuff.

  right, i'm now off to buy a bottle of maccallans 😂..

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  Incognigo Montoya

  In hindsight, there are so many things that could've been said to him, by a person with the right disposition. "Hey! Wheres the party?! Looks like you're off to have a bit of fun?!" I wonder what his response would've been to that? Followed up by the conversation that took place, inquiring about the best scotch to purchase. Doubtful it would've frightened him away, and we might have gotten a bit more insight. As it stands now, I highly doubt he will ever purchase another bottle from a public distributor, and certainly not from that specific establishment. So, as to all of the speculation, a 15 minute encounter, once, in TM life, is hardly proof that he's a drunk, or something more sinister. But still worthy of our disapproval.